The 1,035th meeting of 

The Mineralogical Society

of

Southern California

MSSC ZOOM PRESENTATION

Program: Orbicular Granite from New Mexico

presented by: Joan Karrie

 

Friday, February 14, 2025 at  7:30 pm.

See program notes below

Visitors are always welcome

About us…

The MSSC is a member of the California Federation of Mineralogical Societies and is dedicated to the dissemination of general knowledge of the mineralogical and related earth sciences through the study of mineral specimens.  We are a scientific non-profit organization that actively supports those endeavors through public outreach, field study and related programs.

For more information info@mineralsocal.org


Join us for our 2025 Banquet. Note, the banquet is POSTPONED DUE TO FIRES,

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Members….Action Needed!  Protect your hobby.

CFMS Electronic Communication: Update on National Monument proposals from Ruth Hildago

“There is a push for President Biden to declare two monuments in Southern California, the Chuckwalla National Monument (660,000 acres) and the Kw’tsan National Monument (390,000 acres). The lands within the proposed monuments include well known collecting sites such as the Hauser Geode Beds and Chuckwalla collecting sites and the Dumortierotie, kyanite, petrified wood/palm collecting sites respectively. 

A bill to establish the Chuckwalla National Monument was just introduced last year, https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4132/text.
There isn’t even legislation for the Kw’tsan National Monument. It was proposed along with another monument, the Sattitla National Monument in NorCal, via a joint resolution, SJR-17 was revised to focus on Sattitla National Monument and it unfortunately PASSEDhttps://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SJR17

As you can see from the map below, these two Monuments would close a huge swath of land to our hobby.

Write your reps and ask them to oppose these proposed monuments. The time to act is NOW.


Key points:  Explain you’re a Recreational Rock and Mineral Collector, aka Rockhound and are concerned a Presidential Proclamation would close the lands within the footprint of the monuments to Recreational Rock and Mineral Collecting.  These Monuments were proposed within the last year, with little to no input from local Stakeholders. A Proclamation would be premature.  Designation of huge swaths of land was never the intent of  The Antiquities Act.  Creating these huge monuments totally over 1 million acres would be an abuse of the Antiquities Act.
 

Pink is the proposed Chuckwalla National Monument. Right below it in blue/green outline is the proposed Kw’tsan National Monument.”

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Please copy the attached pdf and send a letter of opposition to your legislators!

Find your reps here: 

https://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/

https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member

Can’t hurt to include the White House too:  https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact


Notice of July 29, 2023 regarding Mojave Trails National Monument.  Reprinted with permission from San Diego Mineral & Gem Society.  Great commentary in the notice by its author, Lisbet Thorensen, SDMG’s Public Lands Representative.  Thank You, SDMG and Lisbet.  Angie Guzman, MSSC President.  Please click here to read article and commentary.


Program Notes: Friday, February 14, 2025  at 7:30, join us for “Plutonic Orbicular Rocks of New Mexico”  Presented by Joan Karrie

My presentation, is a mostly non-technical discussion and comparison of the two occurrences of plutonic orbicular rocks in New Mexico attempting to answer the question “Do the New Mexico orbicular rocks fit the classical definition of an orbicular rock, and can we see this in hand sample?”

The three small outcrops in the Sandia Mountains of central New Mexico appear to conform to the classical definition of orbicular rocks. That is, they are coarse-grained, igneous rocks with concentrically layered, spheroidal structures composed mostly of feldspars and mafic minerals and are formed by rapid nucleation in a magma.  Classical plutonic orbicular rocks occur around the world, including in California; the most spectacular occurrence is at Mount Magma, Australia. 

The three small outcrops in the Zuni Mountains in west-central New Mexico are very different in appearance having none of the characteristics of the classic orbicular rock, except that they contain spheroidal structures.

A discussion of the formation of the Sandia Mountains precedes visual inspection of Sandia Mountain hand samples. The most widely accepted theory of the petrogenesis of classic orbicular rocks is presented in a non-technical format.  Specific features of the Sandia Mountains samples are used to verify that the Sandia samples show evidence of being classic plutonic orbicular rocks.

A discussion of the formation of the Zuni Mountains then precedes a visual description of the theory of formation of these orbicular rocks. Specific features of the Zuni Mountain samples are then shown and agreements between the samples and the theory of formation are discussed to propose that the Zuni samples show evidence of the theory proposed.

A comparison of the Sandia and Zuni specimens vs. the classical definition of plutonic orbicular rocks verifies that while the Sandia specimens fit that definition, the Zuni rocks are of very different origin.

Joan Karrie is a self-proclaimed geology enthusiast.  She has a bachelor’s degree in geology from Western Washington University in Washington state and has taken graduate-level courses in geochemistry, thermodynamics, and petrogenesis at the University of Arizona-Tucson.  Although employed as a database designer and project manager for most of her career, she never lost the initial fascination with the how and why of geological processes.  She especially enjoys translating Geology into English and bringing geological process to life for the non-geologist.  She has presented geological topics to audiences ranging from the New Mexico State Garden Club’s Annual Convention; the New Mexico Mineral Symposium in Socorro; her home club, the Albuquerque Gem and Mineral Society (AGMS); and at OASIS, a 50+ continuing education nonprofit.  She is currently the Secretary of AGMS


SPECIAL ZOOM MEETING NOTICE

MSSC members will be automatically on the invite list each month.

Non Members, you must request to attend the MSSC zoom meeting every month Email our Speakers chair, Carolyn Seitz at speakers@mineralsocal.org  no later than the Thursday before the scheduled meeting   Please include “ZOOM Meeting” in the subject line of your response. We will send you the meeting link.


Upcoming Events

all events, except field trips are via  ZOOM

  • March 14, 2025: TBD
  • April 11, 2025: Dr. Chris Stefano: TBD
  • May 9, 2025: TBD
  • Board Meeting, Sunday April 6, 2025 at 1:00 pm, all are welcome to attend

The MSSC is pleased to offer the updated 2023 edition of Bob Pedersen’s X- Dana 

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